refund of social security taxes

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It's been over a month since I've sent my request for refund of my German Social Security Taxes to Bundesversicherungsanhalt für Angestellte (D-107704 Berlin). And I haven't heard from them. yes. Can someone suggest a way to contact them by phone or email from the U.S. thanks

Ihre Vorsorge · Answer

Hi J. Giergiel, please call 0049 030 865-1 or 0049 030 865-0 or e-mail to meinefrage@drv-bund.de

Ihre Vorsorge · Answer

Sorry, dann sollte die DRV Bund wohl mal ihre Homepage überarbeiten. Hier ist die von mir genannte Rufnummer mehrfach genannt...

Ihre Vorsorge · Answer

Hallo Schlaumeier,

siehe hier:

http://www.deutsche-rentenversicherung-bund.de/nn_15830/SharedDocs/de/Navigation/Deutsche__RV/Versicherungstraeger__node.html__nnn=true#doc5902bodyText6

und hier:

http://www.deutsche-rentenversicherung-bund.de/nn_20278/DRVB/de/Inhalt/Servicebereich2/Buergerservice/Kommunikationswege.html

;-)

Habe die "neue" Telefonnummer aber bereits in meiner Antwort ergänzt (die alte gilt ja offenbar auch noch für einen Übergangszeitraum)... Danke für den Hinweis!

no problem · Answer

https://www.deutsche-rentenversicherung-bund.de/DRVB/de/Navigation/Service/Kontakt,https=1.html__nnn=true

J. Giergiel · Answer

Yeah I know the site, but this doesn't work for me. I cannot call German 800 number from here and the message entry form on that page does not accept foreign addresses (USA that is). Danke anyway.

... · Answer

or this phone-number: 00-49-30-8650 Please have your social-security-number by the hand... They will ask for it!

no problem · Answer

try this one: drv@drv-bund.de

J. Giergiel · Answer

thanks, I'll try it.

J. Giergiel · Answer

Yeah I've got it. Here is another question for you since you seem to know a lot. I spent 3 years in Germany (Max Planck Institut) as a scientist, was paid relatively well but since I do not qualify for German "pension" I decided to try to get back my contributions to the German Social Security System. From what I know if they agree to refunding I'll get 50% of the original contribution. This needless to say stinks to high heaven, because had I stayed in the US I would be getting life long retirement benefits on those three years. So effectively by working in Germany I lost 3 years of contributions to my future retirement benefits. Which is not nice. At least Germany should be decent enough to refund all my contributions not only half of them and indexed for the German CPI (consumer price index which in my case would be around 20%). Otherwise it makes zero sense for any US scientist to take a position in Germany if shorter than 5 years. I don't think German politicians realize how grossly unjust and counterproductive this situation is so the question is who in your Bundestag/Bundesrat should I write with a suggestion that they consider changing these grossly unfair rules one of these days?

just a fake · Answer

Hi there, your English is horrible - your questions are just a fake, arn't they? By the way: 50% means EVERY DM you paid yourself to BfA - only the part your chief paid will stay for the rest of pensionists in Germany - so what?

J. Giergiel · Answer

Sorry some don't like my English but I need to ask one more question because I'm confused about that 50% cut. 50% refund rate is mentioned on the ihre-vorsorge.de site where they claim only 50% of contributions will be refunded. Is that 50% of the amount shown as Position 23 on Lohnstuerbeshscheinigung (Arbeitnehmeranteil am Gesamtsocialversicherungbeitrag)? or do they mean that 50% reduction simply refers to the matching contribution by the Arbeitgeber that will not be refunded under any circumstances while pos 23 will be fully refunded? If that's the case I see absolutely no problem i.e. I agree very much with that "so what" sentiment expressed above. In any case, please don't get me wrong, the fact that one can apply for refund of German social security taxes either in full or part is fantastic, the U.S. never refunds any social security taxes. NEVER.

Rosanna · Answer

(Arbeitnehmeranteil am Gesamtsocialversicherungbeitrag) > YES, u only get this part, YOU payed.

ich · Answer

Die neue Nr. der Zentrale der Dt. RV Bund lautet 030-865-0!!!

Schlaumeier · Answer

https://www.deutsche-rentenversicherung-bund.de/nn_7130/DRVB/de/Homepage/aenderung__rufnummer__telefonzentrale,https=1.html

Schlaumeier · Answer

Mein Beitrag sollte doch nur aussagen, dass (übergangsweise) die "alte" Nummer auch noch fuznktioniert :-)

Bush W.W. · Answer

Hello du, wenn do have deitsch gelaernt dann have do kennen writing in deitsch.Awer do ja lievre live in USA W.W. land.Jetzt do nix knowen watt iss mit yur rente.ugly ugly.

Bush W.W. · Answer

Hello do fake, do ar a fälschung.Do not a berliner yu ar a fake ami.Thitss iss werry traurich.Mischter giergel will oli wissen watt ischt mit ter rente from der germans.I sei dee rente isch verbulvert weg noting over schluss.De germanrende ischt in new bundesländer gelandet.Yu know des?

B´son · Answer

Applaus für den "besten" Beitrag dieser Woche. *knacks* --> Hier, nehmen sie diesen Keks als Zeichen meiner Bewunderung.

Frank · Answer

"Is that 50% of the amount shown as Position 23 on Lohnstuerbeshscheinigung (Arbeitnehmeranteil am Gesamtsocialversicherungbeitrag)? or do they mean that 50% reduction simply refers to the matching contribution by the Arbeitgeber that will not be refunded under any circumstances while pos 23 will be fully refunded? " The "Arbeitnehmeranteil" is the money you yourself paid to Social Security. "Gesamtsozialversicherungsbeitrag" on the "Lohnsteuerbescheinigung" is your share you paid to all kinds of social security including health insurance and insurance against joblessness or accident while working. You will not get all of this money back. What you will get refunded is only the part of your own share to the Social Security on retirement, but this share will be refunded completely (100 %). As you already wrote that 50% reduction simply refers to the matching contribution by the "Arbeitgeber". This "Arbeitgeberbeitrag" will not get refunded. Best wishes Frank

J. Giergiel · Answer

OK, alles klar now, I think. One more Q though: is it possible to estimate what fraction of the "Gesamtsozialversicherungsbeitrag" is my contribution to the German "Social Security on retirement", that is what fraction will be refunded? 70% more, less?

Frank · Answer

should be about 10% of Your "Bruttogehalt" as long as it is not higher as the "Beitragsbemessungsgrenze". For 2008 the "Beitragsbemessungsgrenze" was 63.600 €. If your working income in 2008 would have been higher than that, your own tax on retirement social security would be 6.360 € for that year and you would get only that back. But don't nail me on the penny. You might want also to take a look on that brochure: http://www.deutsche-rentenversicherung-nord.de/nn_32704/SharedDocs/de/Inhalt/04__Formulare__Publikationen/02__info__broschueren/01__ausland/fremdsprachige__broschueren/working__germany__usa.html There you can find, that you could get a german pension from only 3 years if you have also 2 years in the US-Social-Security, but the US Social Security could evtl. cut your US-pension. For that you would have to ask Social Security Administration Office of International Operations – TotalizationP. O. Box 17049BALTIMORE, MD 21235 – 7049USATelefon (001) 8007721213Telefax (001) 4105971800Internet www.ssa.gov Best wishes Frank

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